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      CommentAuthoralsetalokin
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2010 edited
     
    Carly's cute, she's no empty suit. Empty head maybe, but .... well, sometimes those gnarly dessicated types can be real noisy back-scratchers and biters, if you know what I mean...
    • CommentAuthormaryyugo
    • CommentTimeJul 28th 2010
     
    She's not cute, never was. She a cut throat ruthless shrewish bitch who decimated both Compaq and HP and made Dell the strongest PC company on the globe.

    I'll cut her some slack on the hair because she's recovering from chemo for breast cancer. But that woman cute? Gak.
    • CommentAuthorjoshs
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2010
     
    Her successor Michael Hurd has largely undone the damage she did. In the meantime Dell got busy running themselves intothe ground.
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      CommentAuthorDerrickA
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2010
     
    Despite ineffectual CEO's, there are some amazing turnaround stories. CEO Michael Spindler and his successor, Gil Amelio, nearly ran Apple into the ground in the early 90's. In 1996, Apple brought Steve Jobs back into the fold, because they were desperate to buy his NextStep OS. Within months, Apple's board booted Gil, and promoted Jobs to CEO. Apple's growth since then, has been nothing short of spectacular, and today, who wouldn't want to own Apple shares?
    • CommentAuthorjoshs
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2010 edited
     
    Posted By: DerrickADespite ineffectual CEO's, there are some amazing turnaround stories. CEO Michael Spindler and his successor, Gil Amelio, nearly ran Apple into the ground in the early 90's. In 1996, Apple brought Steve Jobs back into the fold, because they were desperate to buy his NextStep OS. Within months, Apple's board booted Gil, and promoted Jobs to CEO. Apple's growth since then, has been nothing short of spectacular, and today, who wouldn't want to own Apple shares?
    Hmmm, Gil Amelio saw that the NextStep OS was something that Apple could use to go after Microsoft. Had Apple paid attention to Gil, instead of letting Jobs stab him in the back, Apple might be worth even more today than it is. Apple suffered for years under Jobs. It wasn't until he finally relented on Intel processors, and made a hit with the iPod that Apple took off.

    ETA: In order to play in the consumer electronics end, Apple had to learn how to get its costs under control. While Jobs does a good promotion job, that was never his skill. Conference calls in the early 2000's at Apple were very painful to listen to. Apple got pounded for spending like they had in their prior glory days while suffering under greatly diminished sales.
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      CommentAuthorDerrickA
    • CommentTimeJul 29th 2010
     
    It's certainly interesting to speculate what would have happened, if Gil had lasted at Apple. Gil was a smart cookie, complete with PHD, and multiple patents. He certainly turned National Semiconductor around. While I see Gil's tenure as being ineffectual, I blame Apple for this more than Gil, because, back then, Apple was a VERY unwieldy company, and yes, the Steve did stab him in the back. I think both Gil and Steve would have faced the first few tough years transitioning Apple to the new OS. After that, I'm not so sure. While I can see Gil running Apple with a steady hand, somehow, I just can't see Gil doing the iPod. As the iPod was instrumental in rebuilding Apple's consumer reputation, I think Steve would have come out on top, despite the bumpier ride.
    • CommentAuthorjoshs
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2010
     
    We will see where this all goes. I would like to point out that MS's GMP's run around 80 while Apple's are well short of 50. I would also like to point out that the iPod / cell phone gadget space is getting very saturated, which bodes a lot better for: software companies ie the model Amelio wanted to mold Apple into, or the Asian production / distribution model, IE Sony, Matsushita/Panasonic. Jobs was always in love with a closed hardware platform. This may be an undoing of sorts as in the phone / small computer gadget space Google is proving very formidable and is following a very different model.

    Anyhow, while we might disagree a bit on what a wonderful or not so wonderful thing Jobs was for Apple from 1996 to 2003, we agree that they have done well by him for the past seven years, and your fundamental point that there have been some spectacular turn arounds of companies decimated by bubble heads like Fiorina. She was ineffectual at ATT and later Lucent which she helped fuck over but good. How she talked her way into the CEO job at HP boggles the mind.
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      CommentAuthoraber0der
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2010
     
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      CommentAuthorDerrickA
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2010
     
    Posted By: aber0derThe future of computing....


    With Mac OS X, Apple has been "64 Bit" capable for years, and with it's latest release (Snow Leopard), most System Apps are now fully 64 bit as well. In Addition, OS X allows developers to easily harness the power of the GPU and additional processor cores.

    http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/
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      CommentAuthoraber0der
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2010 edited
     
    Posted By: DerrickA
    Posted By: aber0derThe future of computing....


    With Mac OS X, Apple has been "64 Bit" capable for years, and with it's latest release (Snow Leopard), most System Apps are now fully 64 bit as well. In Addition, OS X allows developers to easily harness the power of the GPU and additional processor cores.

    http://www.apple.com/macosx/technology/


    I thought the video on the page I linked to is quite funny.
    (eta: I first thought it was a joke, but it seems to be a serious project.)

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