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    • CommentAuthor0893690
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2010
     
    All work and no play makes jack a dull boy.
    All work and no play makes jack a dull boy.

    We need that steorn video screen shot that "lostcause10x" posted on the "the proof" thread page 12. He already added pretty red bullits and numbers to the image so we won't get lost while traversing it's paradigm shifting Orboness.

    Anyone smarter than me know how to copy it from their and paste it here ... anyone ... anyone ... Bueller
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    • CommentAuthor0893690
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2010
     
    lostcause10x you rock.

    Ok and yes, you guys have done most of this analysis already on this forum since the big reveal.
    I would like to rehash and formalize it a bit in this thread.

    It looks to me like Steorn has released enough forensic evidence directly through their videos and Sean's direct statements on the Steorn forum to create a solid technical analysis of the 3:1 over unity claim they have made.

    Those scope traces are worth a thousand words. Sean may not have told us everything directly but he may have told us enough.

    To do this right we need to recreate the crime.

    First we need to reproduce the scene of the crime. Primarily we need access to the exact same model scope and the exact same probes. Once i have the exact part numbers I will work on making these instruments available. This is important to showing the scope integration settings that can produce those waveforms.

    The exact input or output coil specs are not available but I don't think they are critically important to showing the fundamental process to making those screen images.

    If anyone here can help lets first get exact part numbers on the scope and probes. I seem to remember some of that you can see in the video and some was stated by Max.
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    Just for amusement I get about an 86 height measurement.
    With both subtractions it ends up with a rise of 3 or 4..

    So it comes out to about .0465 of the original rise due to input. Or 4 or 5 %

    Best way in the world to show OU.. LOL
    • CommentAuthor0893690
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2010
     
    >Just for amusement I get about an 86 height measurement.

    Please expand your explanation a tad - you mean the height of 1 to 2 on the scope ?

    >With both subtractions it ends up with a rise of 3 or 4..

    You talking scope screen graticules or angle of trace baselines ?

    >So it comes out to about .0465 of the original rise due to input. Or 4 or 5 %

    Comparing angle of trace rise baselines ?


    Hope I'm not the slow kid in the class here...
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    No need for all the scopes and probes. Just were they are connected and the diode that is connected in the system.

    They measure voltage and current on the coil side loop with diode to switching. This is not a battery input except the first rise to peak. When the battery is shut off, it measures the diode voltage drop as a negative and the decay current.
    The 2 to 3 is the direct drop to the negative voltage drop of the diode, and the decline part of 3 to 4 is the decay current before it is turned back on. It drops of course.

    It is not hard to understand the BS they did with this.
    • CommentAuthormaryyugo
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2010 edited
     
    For the life of me I can't imagine why there's so much concern about what Sean showed and said. None of it remotely suggested anything overunity. Most of it involved connecting an oscilloscope to unknown locations within unknown circuitry. The oscilloscope's time base and amplitude settings and calibrations were never revealed. Sean never responded to several people who asked the right questions about input and output and who made good suggestions for reliably measuring it. He has not given calorimetry results he promised. If anyone from the "outside" was allowed to test "Orbo", it has not yet been discussed on any forum I am aware of.

    ALL OF IT WAS A TOTAL FAIL. SO WHO THE FUCK CARES? WHY?
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    Posted By: 0893690>Just for amusement I get about an 86 height measurement.

    Please expand your explanation a tad - you mean the height of 1 to 2 on the scope ?

    >With both subtractions it ends up with a rise of 3 or 4..

    You talking scope screen graticules or angle of trace baselines ?

    >So it comes out to about .0465 of the original rise due to input. Or 4 or 5 %

    Comparing angle of trace rise baselines ?


    Hope I'm not the slow kid in the class here...


    I use an editor called gimp. It has measuring capacity. I place the crosshairs on the position of height I want and it goes to a scale on the side. 109, and 195 So I get measurements of the rise time of positions 1 to 2 of 86, then calculate the subtraction witch is 3, to 4. Not the most accurate method. Could have a variation of say 1 to 2, But I am fairly good with it. It is a reduction to 4 or 5 % of the real input cost.
    I have visually seen the mess to reduce input to under 10 % at first glance of the demo.
    This is a bit more accurate than that.

    Now if we had that data promised.... LOL

    Yet with out data is it what we have available to use.
    • CommentAuthorjoshs
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2010
     
    Posted By: maryyugoFor the life of me I can't imagine why there's so much concern about what Sean showed and said. None of it remotely suggested anything overunity. Most of it involved connecting an oscilloscope to unknown locations within unknown circuitry. The oscilloscope's time base and amplitude settings and calibrations were never revealed. Sean never responded to several people who asked the right questions about input and output and who made good suggestions for reliably measuring it. He has not given calorimetry results he promised. If anyone from the "outside" was allowed to test "Orbo", it has not yet been discussed on any forum I am aware of.

    ALL OF IT WAS A TOTAL FAIL. SO WHO THE FUCK CARES? WHY?
    Exactly. It has always been Steorn's problem to show convincing evidence of their claims. In this last "Final Proof" Sean basically waved his hands around. It was a complete joke and the audience called him on it. Some real fucking morons have taken up the Empereror's New Clothes approach and say that the OU was there to see for people "smart enough" to recognize it. They of course can't show measured input and output, but on Island Whackado such trivialities are never of any concern.
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    Posted By: maryyugoFor the life of me I can't imagine why there's so much concern about what Sean showed and said. None of it remotely suggested anything overunity. Most of it involved connecting an oscilloscope to unknown locations within unknown circuitry. The oscilloscope's time base and amplitude settings and calibrations were never revealed. Sean never responded to several people who asked the right questions about input and output and who made good suggestions for reliably measuring it. He has not given calorimetry results he promised. If anyone from the "outside" was allowed to test "Orbo", it has not yet been discussed on any forum I am aware of.

    ALL OF IT WAS A TOTAL FAIL. SO WHO THE FUCK CARES? WHY?

    Because it is fun to see what they think will convince folks. This is a confidence scam after all.

    What is the input to out put.

    let me tell you about my little black box. Sung to what ever.. LOL