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      CommentAuthoralsetalokin
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2010 edited
     
    Posted By: overconfidentFrom a poster on OU.com. I'm not trying to start a war here. Please, just read the post and consider its content and discuss here in this forum.

    Thanks
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    "Anyone who has Java enabled on their browser can play around with the Ising magnetic simulations, a well known and popular way to simulating magnetic materials. Give your browser ~ 30 seconds to get the applet going. You'll see a large window. Change the "disorder" to a square loop core, ~ 2.3. Click "Generate loop." Then click on BH curve to move the applied field. Moving the field back and forth from full to 0 to full to 0, etc. matches the core seen in the Steorn power in & out scope plots. You'll see how it shows that most of the energy stored in inductance in the Steorn setup can be captured back, as shown in the Steorn scope integrated power plots."

    http://www.lassp.cornell.edu/sethna/hysteresis/


    So? You can do the same thing with a spring.

    If a material has small core losses, then...it can return almost all the energy stored in the inductance of a coil wrapped around it. This is not news.

    Like, for example...air as a core material.

    See the TinselKoil videos. Where do you think all that output power is coming from? It is coming from the return of most of the energy stored in inductance, of a matched set of AIR CORE COILS.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdOhIoA1Z-k
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    Posted By: overconfidentFrom a poster on OU.com. I'm not trying to start a war here. Please, just read the post and consider its content and discuss here in this forum.

    Thanks
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    "Anyone who has Java enabled on their browser can play around with the Ising magnetic simulations, a well known and popular way to simulating magnetic materials. Give your browser ~ 30 seconds to get the applet going. You'll see a large window. Change the "disorder" to a square loop core, ~ 2.3. Click "Generate loop." Then click on BH curve to move the applied field. Moving the field back and forth from full to 0 to full to 0, etc. matches the core seen in the Steorn power in & out scope plots. You'll see how it shows that most of the energy stored in inductance in the Steorn setup can be captured back, as shown in the Steorn scope integrated power plots."

    http://www.lassp.cornell.edu/sethna/hysteresis/

    Oc no war. Hell with the jut flyback subtracted (not the also 74 to 75 percent crap) it still will not be OU.
    I should do some cut and past to show that form correctly as well as just a straight off time and show how rapidly the input still rises. It would still just be three and a part of the forth to be off the top of the scope.

    You see what is shown in that demo is the variation of the rate of climb of input to output. Of course out put was climbing faster.

    It is wrong of course. It is easy to say 300% with the way it was done. Oh and you never get the full flyback back for more than one reason. Loss happens.

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