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    Useful fo education and good humor..
    http://www.steorn.com/forum/comments.php?DiscussionID=62755&page=1#Item_3
    * Tinker

    If joining the SKDB is diverting money away from your wife, kids, and dog. Don't join.

    If joining the SKDB diverts money that you would otherwise spend on beer, gambling and pornography i recommend you do.

    While the 'ultimate proofs' are not available in the public domain that is the best and only answer I can give.
    Except to say that in the SKDB there is a great crowd of clever and very practical engineers, scientists, tinkerers, artists and philosophers. The best forum I have ever participated in. On a bad day it is TBH more fun and more educational than this place on a good one.

    Tinker
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    Now the 'ultimate proofs' Are not in the public domain, what the hell is the demo for??

    Oh Oh its for saying to get the 'ultimate proofs' you must pay an advanced fee of 419.

    What a shill tinker has become.. Shill being person is convinced the truth is behind the door and one has to pay to move up..

    Were the hell is their Ou device???
    Oh yes tinker will be selling kits.

    Tinker you selling kits for hydrogen generators for autos also???
    Might get into that. Seems some good money to be made also.. LOL

    What a jewel
    "While the 'ultimate proofs' are not available in the public domain that is the best and only answer I can give."
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    Boy does this move the bar up.

    Here is our so called proof of Ou, want the real proof pay to see it... RIGHT

    This is the most typical of a con, scam: and a individual that sees a way to also profit from it.
    He may or may not, really believe, yet that profit is were the drive is now coming from.
    It is now a motive of profit to believe.. best shill one can find.

    Got that OU yet tinker??
    Got to get that coil wound just right and you will have it... I am sure it is just something minor that stops you from it. LOL
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    Posted By: lostcauses10xShill being person is convinced the truth is behind the door and one has to pay to move up..


    A shill is a representative that appears not to be connected with the purveying company/individual. They are also called "ringers." In a three card Monte game a ringer will be making bets and winning to lure the "Rube" or "Mark" into the game who will be suckered out of their money. In many gambling establishments there are shills who work the crowd getting people to bet, filling them with drinks. Neither shills nor ringers necessarily have to believe in anything but a paycheck for their services. They are the con artists best asset as they add a layer of attraction to the con. If the Rube is not necessarily convinced of the con man the Shill will serve to ameliorate the Rube's concerns and give the illusion that it is possible to win.

    In Ponzi schemes the Shills or Ringers are not aware of their position. The reason is, as early investors they are being paid off first to attract the requisite additional investors. They are not aware of being used and they will not raise any red flags as they are getting what they want. In those cases they are believers as they are totally unaware that they are aiding and abetting a con. They truly think everything is great which greatly aids in the sincerity of the scheme.
    • CommentAuthortinker
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
     
    What a bunch of tossers you can be. I only meant that when the proofs (like calorimetry) ARE in the public domain - and you guys are the ones who keep saying you want more - then you can decide. I shill for no-one.

    Tinker
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    Shills can also come across as skeptical arguing against a claim earning the trust of other skeptics, then at the last moment the trap is set and snap!, the shill skeptic has discovered the claiment was telling the truth all along.

    In this life you gotta have a little trust, but as I've learned over the past 4 years, with claims such as OU, I do not trust anyone that is not independant and reputable.
    • CommentAuthordareka1
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010 edited
     
    Posted By: tinkerWhat a bunch of tossers you can be. I only meant that when the proofs (like calorimetry) ARE in the public domain - and you guys are the ones who keep saying you want more - then you can decide. I shill for no-one.
    Tinker


    Sorry, you come across as one. Seeming to usually suggest that there are great fruits to be had on the 'other side'.

    One who poses as a satisfied customer or an enthusiastic gambler to dupe bystanders into participating in a swindle.

    ETA - they are currently in the SKDB? So you've seen the test results?
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      CommentAuthorRunningBare
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010 edited
     
    Posted By: tinkerI shill for no-one.

    Tinker
    In Ponzi schemes the Shills or Ringers are not aware of their position.


    Though in this case I do not suspect you of being a shill knowingly or otherwise, just a hopeful believer, either way, you are attempting to sell Steorns claim and of course hope to make a few bucks for yourself along the way.
    • CommentAuthorbc
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010 edited
     
    Posted By: tinkerWhat a bunch of tossers you can be. I only meant that when the proofs (like calorimetry) ARE in the public domain - and you guys are the ones who keep saying you want more - then you can decide. I shill for no-one.
    These guys always use the prospect of a future event to justify their current decision. These future events never happen of course, the goal post is moved again.

    An intelligent and rational person bases their decision on what is currently known, not what "the scammer himself* promises will happen in the future. People like Tinker are unwitting shills.
    • CommentAuthorbc
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
     
    Posted By: TinkerIf joining the SKDB diverts money that you would otherwise spend on beer, gambling and pornography i recommend you do.
    LOL, he puts paying money to Steorn just above doing drugs, gambling and masturbation. That's not setting the bar very high.
    • CommentAuthortinker
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010 edited
     
    No. Not very high at all. Deliberately. ETA. A not selling anything to the public either, for Steorn or on my own account. Tinker
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    I've just discovered another unwitting shill, I was watching one of CLaNZeRs youtube video when an advert for Magniworks appeared, it's a googlead, see, even the largest corporations can be fooled or willing to take your money no matter how much of a scumbag you might be, I'll opt for the latter.

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