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Posted By: TrimJoshs isn't necessarily disagreeing with Xu Zihan. He's disagreeing with what he believes your interpretation of Zihan to be. That there is some realizable potential for limitless energy.You are extrapolating your faulty assumptions into the idea that this report can lead to a working PMM. There isn't anything those guys reported that suggests such a thing is possible.
That's OK then, because that wasn't my interpretation.
My interpretation was that it was an unusual and very interesting device that if true needed a very well thought out explanation and not just an off the cuff remark like it just a fridge or heat pump. You can cool a fluid by extracting heat from it and transferring it elsewhere, using normal methods, a LED emitting electromagnetic waves out into a room follows this rule,BUTa LED doing it into an optimised PV designed to help it work without outside electricity,ENCLOSEDin an insulated pipe containing the hot fluid so that any waste heat goes back into the fluid so it shouldn't be able to drop the heat of the fluid in any way or produce electricity.
IFit does either or both it is very interesting indeed and need a lot of explaining.
I hope the researchers, Parthiban Santhanam and coauthors from MIT are proved right and that they carry out a similar experiment to what I outlined above.
Posted By: TrimOr indeed anything they reported suggests such a thing isn't
Posted By: TrimOr indeed anything they reported suggests such a thing isn'tOne can repeat their experiment and their results until the cows come home. It does not suggest that the experiment you propose has any chance of succeeding. You have failed to make any logical connection between what they have reported and what you propose.
First get their original experiment falsified. And then we can see if an enclosed experiment is possible, it will be interesting if it is.
Posted By: AngusApparently that is so.Posted By: TrimOr indeed anything they reported suggests such a thing isn't
I thought we went over this burden of proof stuff several hundred times in the past. Was someone not paying attention?
Posted By: TrimOr indeed anything they reported suggests such a thing isn't
Posted By: TrimHow can you prove anything until such an experiment is done?
And how can such an experiment be done if so called scientist are sure it won't work?
Any experimenter will have to have real cojones to go against that ossified lot.
Posted By: TrimHow can you prove anything until such an experiment is done?Welcome the the Trim Memorial Ward of Island Whackado.
And how can such an experiment be done if so called scientist are sure it won't work?
Any experimenter will have to have real cojones to go against that ossified lot.
Posted By: TrimHow can you prove anything until such an experiment is done?
Posted By: TrimHow can you prove anything until such an experiment is done?
And how can such an experiment be done if so called scientist are sure it won't work?
Any experimenter will have to have real cojones to go against that ossified lot.