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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2019
     
    But you just don't understand...nothing can be done! Nothing can ever be done. It must stay this way because God, or Thomas Jefferson, or Anton Scalia, or somebody said so.
    • CommentAuthorkorkskrew
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2019
     
    The current bifurcated political/social environment makes a constitutional convention pretty impossible. Something will have to change to make the social and political divisions much less distinct. Then a change to the constitution will be possible.

    If it ever happens, I'll be putting every resource I have into the elimination of the 2nd amendment.
    • CommentAuthorAsterix
    • CommentTimeSep 16th 2019
     
    Posted By: Andrew PalfreymanIT'S BECAUSE OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT, YOU STUPID CUNTS!!!!!!


    No, it's because of the late Justice Scalia's creative interpretation of the Second Amendment. Before Antonin and his comma, there was no problem. Now, apparently, his version has become stare decisis.
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    • CommentAuthorloreman
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2019
     
    Posted By: alsetalokinhttps://www.nbcnews.com/health/mental-health/suicides-two-mental-health-advocates-week-serve-grim-reminder-n1052461


    A large part of the problem is that the onus is always on the depressed person to get help. But depression ain't like measles. Whilst you may know you've got it, one of the primary symptoms is a profound inability to do anything about it.
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    It's more like a profound belief in one's inability to do anything about it.
    • CommentAuthorloreman
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2019
     
    I don't think that's quite right. Once again, the implication of that is that if the depressed person would just change their belief, things would get better. The depressed person is unable to change that belief without intervention.
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2019 edited
     
    loreman is right. It's a disease, not an attitude.

    You only have your mind to cure this problem, and your mind doesn't work right.

    This "just buck up" business is very depressing to listen to.

    Hauling yourself out of depression by willpower is a lot harder than giving up smoking or booze. Nudge nudge.
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    Perhaps my mind isn't working right
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      CommentAuthormaryyugo
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2019
     
    ETA I find MY's comment really distressing. It is tantamount to saying there is no hope for the USA, and that would be a great loss.


    The salvation of the US does not require the banning of all firearms and the suffocating taxation and conversion to socialism.

    By the way, the above graph would be a bit more instructive and reasonable if it included suicides and violent deaths from all causes with a subgraph for firearms. Some cultures are simply more violent than others. It should also include third world countries for perspective.

    I absolutely despise graphs which, so commonly, are made to be deliberately and viciously misleading to push some idiotic agenda.

    Of course Americans don't need and shouldn't have military grade weapons. The second amendment is fine with that. Last I looked, fully automatic machine guns and rockets and bazookas and grenades are not legal for purchase in the US, regardless of the second amendment. That needs extending considerably but not to self defense weapons and not to hunting weapons, both types properly licensed after screening for safety education and complete background checks and so called red flag provisions. Lots of luck just getting that passed.

    As for the economics, reasonable, not choking, taxation would help a lot. A Medicare option for those who want it would be good. But not banning medical insurance if individuals or employers want to pay extra for it. As to what is reasonable taxation, about the federal personal and corporate income taxes before the current insane clown in the White House have the country away to the wealthiest 1% of the people. The other thing to do would be to make it as difficult as possible to find loopholes or avoid taxes.

    You have no idea (or maybe you do) how many people in the US, otherwise law abiding and honest people, pay no tax and work unofficially as "private contractors" and never declare their income or only declare a portion. It's epidemic. Barters too escape taxation as often as not.

    As I've said before, I get taxed by federal, state, county and city authorities and have to pay for all sorts of permits and licenses. That's fine as long as the rates make sense. So far they mostly do. Although for some reason, San Diego's city government seems intent on destroying small business in the city by putting giant and mostly unused bike lanes in business districts, leaving no parking places for customers of the local stores. They are also paying billions for a de luxe elevated railway and other rail links which don't see much use and may not because the area is so large and spread out, that most of it is not covered and one will often have to walk for miles to find a station. When it comes to zoning and laws, the city only favors tourist type businesses. I suppose the current crop of assholes will eventually be voted out if there is anyone living here still full time to do it.

    I ramble which means I need more rum.
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      CommentAuthormaryyugo
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2019 edited
     
    PS: Kaiser-Permanante, Medicare and Medicaid are the closest to socialized medicine or single payer that we have. And they are rife with fraud and abuse (not Kaiser, the other two) which they seem ill equipped to detect and cure. And they are the Kentucky Fried Chicken of American medicine. Often you have no choice of physician or if you do, making a choice can extend already abysmally and often dangerously long waits. I am not making it up. I have friends with experience in all three and I have worked with both Medicaid and Social Security myself.

    I am lucky. I have enough means to enjoy a top local medical institution and a concierge practice on top of that. When I needed an unusually difficult and delicate eye surgery, I simply chose the best surgeon and had to pay cash for it. Insurance fortunately picked up the hospital bill which was much larger than the surgeon's. But most people can't do that. And they don't get the quality of care I and my family do.

    Is that fair? Of course not. But if you can raise the quality of everyone's care without degrading mine, have at it. The society can't afford it. And don't cite me the British and Canadian or (geez) the Cuban system. While all are much better than nothing or third world medicine, they suck compared to the best one can get here. But I won't argue that. I will just get specious graphs about life expectancy and infant mortality back. Yuch!
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2019 edited
     
    Posted By: maryyugoThe salvation of the US does not require the banning of all firearms and the suffocating taxation and conversion to socialism.


    Actually, yes it does,or pretty close.

    In a nutshell.

    ETA - and of course to embrace socialism and weapons sense would be a return to US roots.
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    If it's gonna be all, like, Westworld and all, can we at least keep our six-shooters?
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2019
     
    What for? The robots have you covered.

    (And they are much faster!)
    • CommentAuthorAsterix
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2019
     
    An educated and healthy electorate should be an asset.
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2019
     
    You have to start there. But how do you get to the start?
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      CommentAuthorpcstru
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2019
     
    Posted By: maryyugoPS: Kaiser-Permanante, Medicare and Medicaid are the closest to socialized medicine or single payer that we have. And they are rife with fraud and abuse (not Kaiser, the other two) which they seem ill equipped to detect and cure.

    What the fuck? So you have a company that is NOT socialist but you claim is 'closest to' socialist, that you claim is corrupt (and we can presume nothing is being done about that because ... what exactly?) so Socialism must be bad? That is some bad ass brainwashing you must have suffered.
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2019 edited
     
    I have a lot of trouble imagining what "a company that is socialist" might be. I guess if the company's shares were uniformly distributed to the population and its revenue came entirely from taxes that might qualify. Does that describe Kaiser?
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      CommentAuthorpcstru
    • CommentTimeSep 17th 2019
     
    Seems an odd example in a country in which medical suppliers have been pushing opioid addiction to prop up their massive profits and in which medical outcomes for people are a) relatively poor or b) ensures many of the afflicted become relatively poor or bankrupt.