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      CommentAuthorping1400
    • CommentTimeAug 14th 2020
     
    Don’t trust anti body tests. I bought a pack of tests in early July and checked it also on my brother who had Corona in May. The test result was negative.
    • CommentAuthorBigOilRep
    • CommentTimeAug 14th 2020 edited
     
    Posted By: alsetalokinI'm glad everything is going to be all right, then. You have eased my mind considerably. I think I can finally go grocery shopping without worrying that someone is going to sneeze on me. Tell me, do you wear a mask when you are out in public? If so... why? What about seatbelts when you drive? After all, you have proved that this pandemic is an insignificant problem compared to all the other things out there that are trying to kill your grandmother. So why bother to worry about any of them? You can't control your exposure to second-hand tobacco smoke, or to idiots driving and drinking, or to your maid who just came back from visiting her TB-ridden home town in the third world, can you, so why worry about any of it? After all, nobody gets out of this alive, so suck it up and die like an aviator. That's the only attitude that makes any sense, right?

    Except I didn't say any of that, did I? You are just putting words in my mouth. I was pointing out that your talk of extinction events is pure doom porn.


    The virus isn't affecting _you_, so why worry about it.

    That isn't what I'm saying, but seems to be what you're saying about all the diseases that kill poor people in far off lands. Isn't it?
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      CommentAuthorgoatcheez
    • CommentTimeAug 14th 2020 edited
     
    @al

    It has been shown that other virions can create antibodies which are effective against SARS CoV 2 although the individual has never been exposed to the latter. It is reasonable to conclude that those same antibodies could show a false positive in SARS CoV 2 tests.
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    Posted By: goatcheez@al

    It has been shown that other virions can create antibodies which are effective against SARS CoV 2 although the individual has never been exposed to the latter. It is reasonable to conclude that those same antibodies could show a false positive in SARS CoV 2 tests.


    There is so much chaos and uncertainty in both the testing and in the reporting that I don't think anybody has reliable data, except the count of the excess corpses piling up. We don't know how specific the antibody tests really are, we don't know the rates of false positives and negatives, we don't know if the detected antibodies are neutralizing antibodies that actually protect against infection, we don't know how long antibodies last, we don't know if people can be reinfected.
    Or at least I don't.
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    It is rather unfortunate that the power structures of the USA have been been bent to the will of a malignant, ignorant narcissist. Equally unfortunate is the dearth of snipers.
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      CommentAuthoralsetalokin
    • CommentTimeOct 25th 2020 edited
     
    Good grief.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tN9T73GWam0
    Mark Meadows
    1) states that the Infection Fatality Rate is 2.7 percent early on in the interview
    2) acknowledges that "we are not going to control" the pandemic
    3) exhibits classic doublespeak, some people are more equal than others
    4) attempts unsuccessfully to attack interviewer rather than deal with the issue when pressed

    Meanwhile Pence's staff is infected and Pence and Trump both are still holding superspreader events.

    Note that Meadows realizes that people are getting infected at the rallies, and that the Infection Fatality Rate is 2. 7 percent. He doesn't seem to be able to make the connection that the rallies are random Russian Roulette murder suicide rallies, not campaign events. A campaign event seeks to attract voters. These murder rallies aren't attracting anyone who isn't already a Trumpophile.

    It burns me up when people (ReTrumplicans) say stuff like "it's an issue of personal freedom" to excuse mask noncompliance. Interviewers should immediately shoot back with "seatbelt laws, no=smoking laws, smoke detector laws, fire sprinkler laws, speed limit laws, intoxicated driving laws" et cetera until the "freedom" advocate realizes that he is bound up in laws to protect himself and _other people_ and that his "freedom" ends when it threatens MY health by his non-compliance with mask common sense!
    • CommentAuthorAsterix
    • CommentTimeOct 25th 2020
     
    The problem of course, isn't that one gets infected and it ends there; the issue is that the infected person infects others.

    We may not be able to control Covid-19, but we should certainly be able to contain it.

    At least one local case of an asymptomatic kid picking the bug up in daycare and transmitting it to both parents. The interesting thing is that the mother tested positive but the father, negative. A day later, neither of them could smell the odor of an open jar of pickles. Dad goes back for a re-test--positive.
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      CommentAuthorDuracell
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2020 edited
     
    https://mobile.twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1319277057650556936



    Whoah! Nearly 2 months ago, by September 5th, the excess deaths in the USA has already exceeded:

    300,080 ...



    That's more than +24% greater than the historical average 2015-2019 ...




    How New York’s missteps let Covid-19 overwhelm the US
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    There are 1440 minutes in a 24 hour day. More than 2800 USAmericans died yesterday of CoVid-19. One or the other of the Fake News networks should be putting up real-time clocks of the dying along with their chyrons, since we are losing people at the rate of 2 per minute, and accelerating.
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      CommentAuthoraber0der
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2020
     
    It is what it is. At least there's no socialism.
    And about 30% of those dead died for Trump voluntarily.
    • CommentAuthorAsterix
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2020
     
    In the aftermath of 9/11, the US shut down air travel, deployed the military and set up checkpoints on major highways.

    Now, with more than a 9/11 every day, we do essentially nothing.

    Strange, isn't it?
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    Posted By: AsterixIn the aftermath of 9/11, the US shut down air travel, deployed the military and set up checkpoints on major highways.

    Now, with more than a 9/11 every day, we do essentially nothing.

    Strange, isn't it?


    It's more than strange. It's obscene.

    I'm frightened and lonely and I'm even afraid to walk my dog, for fear of some idiot jogger running past, spreading visible plumes of death as he goes.
    • CommentAuthorloreman
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2020
     
    More likely as she goes around here
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    Turd could not organise a piss up in a brewery
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      CommentAuthoraber0der
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2020
     
    Posted By: AsterixNow, with more than a 9/11 every day, we do essentially nothing.

    Different times. Owning the libraians and literacy,
    • CommentAuthorkorkskrew
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2020
     
    And ... you know ... time.
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    • CommentAuthorBigOilRep
    • CommentTime6 days ago
     
    That's going to be pretty controversial. There were around 600,000 excess deaths in the USA during the period. I've no idea how valid their modelling is to then equate this to 900,000 coronavirus deaths - one for statisticians to debate.

    They seem to be saying that because lots of other causes of mortality have dropped significantly (eg almost no influenza deaths) the deaths due to coronavirus must be higher than excess deaths and then attempt to model it.

    It might have some validity, but I'm not sure how useful is in judging how well governments have managed it. Japan may have had more C19 deaths than reported, but it still ended with negative excess mortality - that is less people died in 2020 than in previous years.

    Here's the actual paper:

    http://www.healthdata.org/special-analysis/estimation-excess-mortality-due-covid-19-and-scalars-reported-covid-19-deaths