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    • CommentAuthorsonoboy
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2020 edited
     
    Posted By: Angushttps://youtu.be/bJE6-VTdbjw

    Does everybody agree? It seems to me that there are examples of strong emergence in chaotic systems and cellular automata.


    Well, one thing about emergence in a chaotic system, for example, is of extreme turbulent flow of water in a pipe and when pockets of tranquility emerge. If you look at reality as virtual and computed based on random draws from a probability distribution and consistent histories, the rendering engine has to render and keep track of everything that is happening and store the data in a history thread. When you have millions and millions of things going on in the pipe the rendering engine starts drawing from the 'tail ends' of the probability curve due to the huge number of random choices being made and therefore pockets of calm can emerge in the otherwise chaotic flow
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2020
     
    Occam.

    (aber0der says "Gesundheit")
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      CommentAuthoraber0der
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2020
     
    "Gesundheit"
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      CommentAuthoraber0der
    • CommentTimeApr 10th 2020
     
    No, FFS. 'It' does not put the lotion anywhere. WTF?
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    hahahahhahahahaha
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    Posted By: sonoboy
    Posted By: Angushttps://youtu.be/bJE6-VTdbjw

    Does everybody agree? It seems to me that there are examples of strong emergence in chaotic systems and cellular automata.


    Well, one thing about emergence in a chaotic system, for example, is of extreme turbulent flow of water in a pipe and when pockets of tranquility emerge. If you look at reality as virtual and computed based on random draws from a probability distribution and consistent histories, the rendering engine has to render and keep track of everything that is happening and store the data in a history thread. When you have millions and millions of things going on in the pipe the rendering engine starts drawing from the 'tail ends' of the probability curve due to the huge number of random choices being made and therefore pockets of calm can emerge in the otherwise chaotic flow


    In what way is this an example of strong emergence? Obviously, it is not.
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2020
     
    Indeed. Nothing is emerging.
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    Posted By: AngusIndeed. Nothing is emerging.


    I think there's a pill for that....
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeJun 8th 2020
     
    Sabine gives them all hell in a book.
    (I think Lee Smolin wrote the same sort of book a few years ago, but we probably need several.)
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    How to search for alien life
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8R4RU-duuw
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    Robert Sheckley says that the most efficient way to find something is to go to where that thing must inevitably eventually be, and wait there for it to show up.
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2020 edited
     
    I am greatly heartened that the moletrap through its denizens remembers Robert Sheckley.

    And applause once again for Sabine. I have no sense of her music but I would bet it's pretty good too.
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    Infinitely preferable to mamo, the imaginary twisted sister
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      CommentAuthoralsetalokin
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2020 edited
     
    Metaphoric deformation is another Sheckleyan concept. A Buddhist might say "as a thing is viewed, so it appears." The Sheckleyan version would be "as a thing is viewed, so it becomes."

    To the blind man, the elephant's trunk _is_ a snake.
    • CommentAuthorAsterix
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2020
     
    And then there's the Catholic view--the thing--and it's "essence"--re transubstantiation.

    But sometimes a cigar is just a good smoke.
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2020
     
    And quite often it's not a very good smoke.
    • CommentAuthorAsterix
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2020
     
    I shared an office with a fellow who smoked some of those. Vile things, they were.
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      CommentAuthoroak
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2020
     
    Sabine - Ode to Joy
    https://youtu.be/pHw2iMmpsGo
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeJun 14th 2020
     
    Next week on Sabine's channel

    -Useful knots for cave divers

    -Achaean poetry from the Bronze Age.

    Don't miss it!!
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    Posted By: oakSabine - Ode to Joy
    https://youtu.be/pHw2iMmpsGo
    Be sure to not miss the teardrops