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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2013
     
    Posted By: alsetalokinthe most important thing Harper has done in seven years is to get accused of fiddling with an underling's expense account, by being in the room when another underling's lawyer decided it might be a good idea to give a big check to the first underling's laywer.


    Unfortunately most of that is wrong, but you have the general drift.
    • CommentAuthortinker
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2013
     
    You mean he was fiddling with the wrong underling?
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      CommentAuthoralsetalokin
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2013 edited
     
    Well, the news story described a situation where two politicians, two underlings, and two lawyers were all in the same room. Anything could have happened, from non-consensual sex to World War Next.

    You can't even tell how many people were there, since politicians, underlings, and lawyers aren't mutually exclusive job descriptions.
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2013
     
    Well, it's much more complicated than that. In effect, in UK terms, he refused due process to a Life Peer who was being hounded out of the House of Lords because he was an embarrassment to the government.
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeOct 27th 2013
     
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    Indeed, the very model of a poodle
    • CommentAuthorAsterix
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2013
     
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    I wonder how they mitigate tree root damage...
    • CommentAuthorAsterix
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2013
     
    Posted By: Andrew PalfreymanI wonder how they mitigate tree root damage...


    Easy--they just seal the roots carefully with pure Canadian tar sands crude...
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      CommentAuthorThicket
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2013
     
    I think that approval of the Keystone pipeline is inevitable. I'm not sure that it's a good thing for Canada. All of Canada's surplus crude goes to the United States. It's tough to negotiate a good price when your one-and-only customer sees you coming. Don't get me wrong. The United States is a good and reliable customer of Canadian exports. Nevertheless, I think Canada needs to expand its market for energy products.

    There are a number of pipeline proposals for getting oil to the East and West coasts of Canada. Northern Gateway, Trans-Mountain and Energy East all focus on getting oil to tidewater for export. If the U.S. balks, there are lots of countries willing to buy Canadian oil.

    As for the U.S., it can always buy more oil from its friends in Venezuela.
    • CommentAuthorjoshs
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2013
     
    Posted By: ThicketI think that approval of the Keystone pipeline is inevitable. I'm not sure that it's a good thing for Canada. All of Canada's surplus crude goes to the United States. It's tough to negotiate a good price when your one-and-only customer sees you coming. Don't get me wrong. The United States is a good and reliable customer of Canadian exports. Nevertheless, I think Canada needs to expand its market for energy products.

    There are a number of pipeline proposals for getting oil to the East and West coasts of Canada. Northern Gateway, Trans-Mountain and Energy East all focus on getting oil to tidewater for export. If the U.S. balks, there are lots of countries willing to buy Canadian oil.

    As for the U.S., it can always overthrow another government and then buy more oil from its new found friends in Venezuela.
    • CommentAuthorAsterix
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2013
     
    The issue is that the US would probably end up doing nothing more that refining the crude. As I understand things, most of the Keystone XL oil will be exported. Keystone has not been pitched as an energy source for US consumption, but rather a jobs source (and an inflated one at that).

    It'll go through because the Koch boys stand to make about $100B (that's with a "B") out of it--and they pretty much own Congress.

    About as good a deal as some TUV-approved Toronto kiddie porn.
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      CommentAuthorTrim
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2013
     
    BBC

    Hundreds held over Canada child porn.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-24944358
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    Is that because all the adults are ugly?

    **ducks**
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      CommentAuthorTrim
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2013
     
    Well if they all look like Angus.

    **Runs**
    • CommentAuthorAsterix
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2013
     
    Toronto's really been making the news lately...for all the wrong reasons.
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      CommentAuthorThicket
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2013
     
    Posted By: AsterixThe issue is that the US would probably end up doing nothing more that refining the crude. As I understand things, most of the Keystone XL oil will be exported. Keystone has not been pitched as an energy source for US consumption, but rather a jobs source (and an inflated one at that).


    That does not compute.

    The U.S. imports about 8 million barrels of oil a day. About 20% of that comes from Canada. Other major suppliers are Saudi Arabia, Mexico, Venezuela and Nigeria. Imports have been dropping since U.S. oil production is climbing. Average 2013 oil production is about 7. 5 million barrels of oil a day. Nevertheless, the U.S. is still far away from oil self-sufficiency.

    It doesn't make sense to export a lot of refined products derived from Canadian oil while at the same time importing oil from other countries to meet domestic refined products demand. Just refine the Canadian oil for the domestic market and cut back on oil imports from other countries.

    The U.S. does export some refined products. Currently, this is about 2.5 million barrels per day and growing. This includes products with a limited American market... diesel for example. Keystone would somewhat increase refined products export.

    Exporting American crude oil is illegal for the most part.

    I fully understand the U.S. trumpeting the employment benefits of the pipeline. It's a marketing approach that focuses on what gains the most support --- jobs. Creating jobs has more traction with the public than replacing offshore oil with Canadian oil.
    • CommentAuthorAsterix
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2013
     
    See http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424127887324392804578358791884145514 for details--the goop is to be refined by the US refineries and exported.

    Makes no sense to USAns unless you're in on the pipeline biz or run a refinery.

    But it will go through--I can't see it being stopped for long.
    • CommentAuthortinker
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2013
     
    The purpose behind this is simple. Increasing quantities of finished products from new state-of-the-art refineries in the USA and the Gulf States both. This is really putting the squeeze on EU refineries to the point where many are being mothballed or shut down totally.

    When these old refineries are mostly beyond reuse, the price of imports will baloon. Simples.
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeNov 16th 2013
     
    Exporting American crude oil is illegal for the most part


    If the USA can do that, why not Canada? We'll ship only the refined product and get higher margins.