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Posted By: Andrew PalfreymanI know next to nothing about gamma radiation measurement, and so simply took the announcement at face value. What could be responsible for the elevated rate, then?I also don't know much about radiation measurements. Somebody at ecatnews.com suggested it's analogous to the temperature measurement issue with isoperibolic calorimetry-- small changes lost in large amounts of baseline noise. But with radiation, I really don't know.
Posted By: QuantenAlso rossi really understand nothing of physic. If a phenomenon start emitting so many radiation, there is no way it would stop and continue heating the stuff. It would continuously emit so many as long as "fusion" still occurs. And if fusion was occurring, the energy produced by it would be proportional to the emitted radiation baring shielding. Unless I forgot something , he again has shown he is tricking.Yes. The so-called LENR community is relying on ONE *CLAIMED* MEASUREMENT by ONE PERSON (Celani) at ONE DEMO. It is incomprehensible that nobody has measured any radiation in any Rossi fabrication since.
Posted By: QuantenDepends on what you want to measure. Gamma/neutron flux should not have that much noise at sea level, in a closed room isolated enough with non granitic material. IIRC the number is something akin 40 neutron per second per square meter in normal background noise radiation in labs ? If their supposed measured cold fusion is below that... well.... That would be hardly differentiable from background noise. But then it would also be hardly detectable and certainly not a source of "energy".... And certainly not the claim of all the kooks.One experiment I recall reading about indeed was talking about a range of around 40/second etc.. I can't remember which one it was.
Posted By: QuantenAlso rossi really understand nothing of physic.
Posted By: Andrew PalfreymanWe are working on the ridicule aspect.
Posted By: maryyugoFrom Alain Sepeda via Vortex:Applied nuclear fusion
Lenr cars. The start-up develops Lausanne a new generation of electric motors.
"The technology we are developing will allow a car to travel 40,000 kilometers on a single tank of fuel without generating any waste."
This ambitious project comes from Nicolas Chauvin, founder and CEO of startup LENR Cars, based at the EPFL (Ecole Polytechnique Fédérale). To meet this challenge, this Logitech and NASA former engineer, uses a technology called nuclear fusion LENR (Low Energy Nuclear Reactions).
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To date, the prototype is being developed. Its final version should be released in 2014. Funded initially by private funds, including those of its creator, the company can also count on the support of the founder of Logitech , Daniel Borel. "He was immediately fascinated by the project. His many contacts we are also very valuable. "However, the company seeking additional funds. "We are not looking for significant funding for now. 200,000 francs (swiss franc) allow us to continue the development of our prototype. "LENR Cars is currently in talks with several automakers, including PSA (Peugeot-Citroen) and Telsa groups. Though the start-up is only on the development of this specific segment of the market can change quickly. "This is a risky area or can go very fast. It is likely that within five years the energy giants are involved significantly in this revolutionary technology. "
Many scientists and journalists are indeed of the opinion that LENR technology represents one of the greatest discovery of mankind. "The problem is that the huge economic stakes and the pressure of oil and nuclear industries likely to jeopardize this new breakthrough."
When asked about whether LENR Cars has built a prototype LENR system, Chauvin responds:
“Yes, We have built 3 prototypes of 2 different kinds:
- 1 with an electrolytic process where hydrogen is extracted from water
- 2 with gaseous hydrogen at low pressure (30 psi)
We are currently building a third type of design based on nickel nano-powder and hydrogen at medium pressure (150 psi).
Currently, we can produce between 10-15 Watt from the reaction for more than one month in a continuous and stable manner.
With the new design, we expect to scale the power up between 500W and 1kW.
We are also collaborating with other teams in the US that have similar or better results. And we are sharing some ideas.”
Also, when asked about customers LENR Cars has consulted for, he says there are 5 that customers that have paid for consulting services in the LENR field:
- “Confidential”: a large European industrial company (under NDA, we cannot mention them).
- SIG: a Swiss utility company
- Moravsky Vyzkum: a Czech high tech robotics and energy company
- Quantum Heat: a partner company developing this technology in collaboration with us
- Transaltec: a Swiss company organizing conferences
Posted By: OmphaloskepticThey have built prototypes based on a 15-watt reactor?Not to mention that a small device based on LENR and which could produce 15W for a month on minimal fuel would be a ground breaking achievement for the century and a likely Nobel winner for the inventor. Also probably worth billions of dollars!
Posted By: AngusAt present only my imperfect memory. I recall there was once announced that they had a Milan operation under the direction of somebody with an Italianate name starting with C.