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      CommentAuthoraber0der
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2014
     
    http://lightstone.net/global-projects/lenr-fusion/

    Our research has been based on results of a large soviet research program which was discontinued after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Our lead scientist participated in this program and has continuing its research over the last 25 years until he found the he discovered the right conditions and materials to reliably trigger a LENR reaction in 2011.
    • CommentAuthorAsterix
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2014
     
    Somehow, I don't think so:

    Dr Sergio Calqueiro
    Sergio holds an MBBCH degree and is a talented executive with eight years’ experience developing and implementing sales and marketing strategies in Europe, Asia and the USA. His experience in Europe and Africa (gold and diamond trading) positions him well to oversee our African mining operations. Sergio’s outstanding leadership qualities have seen him lead a large team of talented international sales professionals, successfully selling into the medical, energy and environmental markets.


    Doesn't sound very LENR-ish to me.
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    Just count the buzzwords. Puke.
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      CommentAuthormaryyugo
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2014 edited
     
    YET another seemingly reputable LENR scam? I think for sure the professor is being scammed. When I get some time, I will email her and I suggest you'all do too. A "new" LENR company which, stupidity of stupidities, is going to "prove" that excess heat is real by installing a boiler into an industrial process. Never mind the lab. They are going directly to a process. And the professor agrees that this is a good idea. They sure don't make professors these days, the way they used to!

    From e-catworld.com: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/07/07/phonon-energy-working-with-seattle-university-on-cold-fusion/#comments

    From Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twQaqS2NrrI

    The company is taking "investors" (marks): http://www.phonon-energy.org/investor-information.html

    ETA: looks like Defkalion bamboozled them. Sad. I guess the connection to Seattle University is because Defkalion is nearby in Vancouver (duh!)... from their web page.

    Build a prototype boiler that is designed to use Defkalion’s pre-commercial Hyperion 45kW reactor.
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      CommentAuthormaryyugo
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2014 edited
     
    Here is what I wrote them... in case they delete it:

    Mary Yugo
    1 second ago

    Hi. Maybe you can explain why you are planning to go directly to a high power boiler when the technology you plan to use has never been properly demonstrated in a lab nor has it been documented in peer-reviewed main line publications.

    Many people believe that the two companies which claim high power LENR (Defkalion and Andrea Rossi and his associates) are basically investor scams. Both have made many references to associations with big companies and universities and Rossi claims many sales of a megawatt "plant". But not a single customer has stepped forward and not one credible test has ever been done officially by a university or government laboratory!

    Who do you think really has high power LENR and why do you think it? Have you ever tested high power LENR and if so, how and what were the results?

    Please be cautious. Reputations may depend on it.

    Thanks.

    and

    Mary Yugo
    1 second ago

    OK, I read your corporate web page as far as you got and I noticed that you are relying on Defkalion. Please ask them for a copy of the internet forum they had in 2011 and read it with care. Look at their claims. Not a single one was true. They said they worked with dozens of major companies but never named a single one. They said they had independent testing but the results and testors were never revealed. Eventually, the forum, full of exaggerations and lies, was deleted. Please ASK TO SEE IT.

    Also ask if you can have a Hyperion unit to test in your own lab without Defkalion being involved in the test method. Get the best heat transfer and fluid flow specialists (physicists and engineers) you can from the University. That's the key. And they MUST look for deception and bad methodology on the part of Defkalion!

    I strongly suggest that you not commit to anything with Defkalion until you have designed your own testing method for their excess heat production, have run the tests in your own laboratory (not theirs) and have used your own method of providing power to the Hyperion and your own method of measuring enthalpy. NOBODY, as far as has been publicly released, has ever done that.

    Also read Defkalion's colorful internet history, in particular, the testing done by their own former sales representative. In particular, please be sure to speak with Luca Gamberale (CTO at Defkalion Europe) and please read this link from a LENR friendly user community:

    http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/08/04/defkalion-europe-freezes-relationship-with-defkalion-green-technologies-over-measurement-issues/

    *------- end of quote

    If they are sincere, they will respond appropriately. If they are not, they will accuse me of being a pathological skeptic or they will simply delete the comments. We'll see, I guess.
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      CommentAuthorbloodymedia
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2014 edited
     
    Things to do if you want to orchestrate a scam:
    Rent a cheap website, put some ugly layout on it and forget to fill the entry page:

    http://www.phonon-energy.org/



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      CommentAuthormaryyugo
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2014 edited
     
    The person who uploaded the video also uploaded this (Hooters' Bikini Contest). I'm not sure what this says about his seriousness. The video may not be worksafe in some work places:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2QZ_GctLlk
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2014
     
    MY
    It's all there on their disclaimer
    -This heat generating technology has a doubtful reputation due to its association with the “cold fusion” debacle in 1989
    -Established institutions still don’t have an answer to explain the repeatable heat phenomenon recently being observed


    Everybody should read the small print.
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    Posted By: maryyugoThe person who uploaded the video also uploaded this (Hooters' Bikini Contest). I'm not sure what this says about his seriousness. The video may not be worksafe in some work places:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2QZ_GctLlk

    Shouldn't that be in the "Know your Skank" thread?

    At least we know now how topless dancers spend their daytime hours. They put tops on, barely, and go work their day jobs at Hooter's.

    (this exploits men, by the way)
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      CommentAuthoralsetalokin
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2014 edited
     
    A new Rossism, from the ECW site:

    ...the mother of the imbeciles is always pregnant and we must take care of what pops out.


    You gotta love that guy.
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    I felt totally exploited throughout the entire thing
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      CommentAuthormaryyugo
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2014 edited
     
    Posted By: AngusMY
    It's all there on their disclaimer


    Bah. There is much they have no idea about. Here's what I wrote to their Seattle U contact, Dr. Teodora Shuman:

    Dear Dr. Shuman,

    Forgive the intrusion and the pseudonym. My background is [details redacted]

    I am very concerned about what I heard on David Daggett's recent Youtube video, in which you spoke briefly, and what I read on his web site.

    It appears that you and Mr. Daggett believe the claims of Defkalion and Andrea Rossi and are planning a business based on those claims. Unfortunately, to many independent observers, the claims appear to be at best, large exaggerations and at worst, simply dishonest.

    You may wish to exercise extreme caution before acting on the claims. As a minimum, you may want to confirm the high power claims of Defkalion and Hadjichristos by testing them completely independently and in your own laboratories. And sooner rather than later! It's not that difficult. Just make sure you use entirely your own methods, your own power source, and appropriately sophisticated instruments. Use experts in fluid flow, heat transfer, calorimetry and enthalpy measurement. This is essential. And look for deception specifically. Control EVERYTHING yourself.

    It has been alleged that proponents of high power LENR/cold fusion mislead investors using bad measurement methods. They may also be cheating or being negligent on the input and output power measurements.

    Finally, please be sure to contact Luca Gamberale (CTO at Defkalion Europe) and ask him about his independent tests of Defkalion's technology.

    I make a study of high technology scams and frauds and have already succeeded in obtaining government action in one high profile scam (Sniffex). I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but I strongly believe (though I can not yet prove) that both Defkalion and Andrea Rossi and their devices and claims are probably scams (or major measurement errors) and nothing else.

    If you would like more detailed information or suggestions for conducting an independent test, please write me at the above email address. Same if you want more about Defkalion's history including a copy of their now-deleted internet forum which was filled with lies. I have made similar suggestions on the Youtube video's comment space. I will be happy to discuss this matter further my email with you or with Mr. Daggett.

    Sincerely yours,


    Mary Yugo (a pseudonym)


    What I don't understand is how a PhD physicist (actually, she is a mechanical engineer) can be so weird as to go along with the idiotic concept that the first thing you do to test whether high power LENR is real or not is to make a boiler to stick into some sort of existing conventional furnace! That is so dumb! That means they are swallowing Defkalion's whole line of bull. Maybe I can wake them up a bit. (and most likely not but why not try?)

    If anyone wants to join the fray, Dr. Shuman's email is on her web page from the U, here:

    http://www.seattleu.edu/scieng/me/default.aspx?id=16736
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      CommentAuthoralsetalokin
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2014 edited
     
    Posted By: Andrew PalfreymanI felt totally exploited throughout the entire thing

    I'll bet there's not a one of those bimbos who could make change of a twelve-dollar bill without a calculator. Go ahead, ask one to construe some Cicero for you, or tell her elevenses without peeking.
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    Posted By: maryyugoMary Yugo (a pseudonym)

    Wait.... you mean you're _not_ really Mary Yugo? I'm crushed.
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      CommentAuthormaryyugo
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2014 edited
     
    Posted By: alsetalokinShouldn't that be in the "Know your Skank" thread?
    You know, that's not fair. Many attractive young women exploit their looks in a mild to moderate manner by waitressing at places like Hooters, the Tilted Kilt, and so on and maybe participating in contests or modeling swim suits and clothes. Most are not "skanks", are not promiscuous, and are simply normal teenagers and young persons looking to fund college educations or technical training for a career. And it's not a bad way. So stop with the hang ups please. If I had a daughter that age, I'd let her do it with proper precautions.

    The real stinking skanks are the Rossi's and Hadjichristoses of the world.
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      CommentAuthormaryyugo
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2014
     
    Posted By: alsetalokinWait.... you mean you're _not_ really Mary Yugo? I'm crushed.
    Me too.
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    Posted By: maryyugoWhat I don't understand is how a PhD physicist (actually, she is a mechanical engineer)...


    Well, there you have it then. Mechanical engineers have to believe that what they are told is true, and use the information effectively, otherwise their bridges will fall down and their buildings topple over. And physicists expect the world to be orderly, understandable (with enough math) and that their colleagues aren't lying to them. Neither discipline trains its disciples in skepticism or critical thinking, or even, in my humble experience, in the fundamentals of experimental design and interpretation of results. There is a narrow core of physicist-engineers with true competences; these folks are mostly underground doing Big Science or up on remote mountaintops doing astrophysics. They aren't fooling around with "LENR" or fake companies like Defkalion, Green or Notsomuch, whatever.
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      CommentAuthoralsetalokin
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2014 edited
     
    Posted By: maryyugo
    Posted By: alsetalokinShouldn't that be in the "Know your Skank" thread?
    You know, that's not fair. Many attractive young women exploit their looks in a mild to moderate manner by waitressing at places like Hooters, the Tilted Kilt, and so on and maybe participating in contests or modeling swim suits and clothes. Most are not "skanks", are not promiscuous, and are simply normal teenagers and young persons looking to fund college educations or technical training for a career their breast implants and shopping sprees. And it's not a bad way. So stop with the hang ups please. If I had a daughter that age, I'd let her do it with proper precautions.

    The real stinking skanks are the Rossi's and Hadjichristoses of the world.


    FTFY. You clearly haven't spent enough time on the "audience" side of the pole-dancing stage.

    I'll make a little bet with you. You go into your local Hooter's during the afternoon. Ask each waitress if she's working her way through college in a technical field of study. If more than half of them are doing so.... you win. If less than half.... you owe me a cheezburger.
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      CommentAuthormaryyugo
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2014
     
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      CommentAuthormaryyugo
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2014 edited
     
    Posted By: alsetalokinYou go into your local Hooter's during the afternoon. Ask each waitress if she's working her way through college in a technical field of study. If more than half of them are doing so.... you win. If less than half.... you owe me a cheezburger.
    I don't pretend to know the stats but even if many are not, it doesn't change the point: waitressing in such a place or even dancing on a pole doesn't create a skank. And I wasn't talking about dancers anyway. As for dancers, surprisingly many hate men and enjoy exploiting them and many are gay or (barely) bisexual, preferring women. I never really understood lap dancing strip joints. For the same amount the men spend (waste) in these places, they can pursue a real woman of their own, or they can hire a prostitute and actually get sex. It seems to be for really dumb and insecure men mainly.

    But that's a bit OT for this thread, no?