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    Can complexity have a negative value? Because progress sure can. It's then called regression.
    • CommentAuthorloreman
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2019
     
    Depends how you view it ;-)
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2019
     
    In technology - probably. But in science - isn't progress a wider understanding using fewer, more basic principles?
    • CommentAuthorloreman
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2019
     
    Don’t you have to analyse as much data as you can justify as necessary in order to derive basic principles?
    • CommentAuthorloreman
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2019
     
    Oh, and I forgot to add, isn’t it true that the more you know, the more you realise you don’t know?
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2019
     
    Analysing complexity to understand its underlying principles is going from complex to simple, Shirley. And the more profound the simple principles, the more complexity they can reduce. Agsin going from complex to simple.
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    It certainly explains Turd
    • CommentAuthorloreman
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2019
     
    Posted By: AngusAnalysing complexity to understand its underlying principles is going from complex to simple, Shirley. And the more profound the simple principles, the more complexity they can reduce. Agsin going from complex to simple.


    But surely that assumes a finite number of simple principles. Is that how spacetime works?
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2019 edited
     
    Physicists fervently hope so.That is the core of theiŕ faith.
    • CommentAuthorloreman
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2019
     
    So what is complexity?
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2019 edited
     
    Different question. We're arguing about relative complexity. The absolute argument is more expensive.
    • CommentAuthorloreman
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2019
     
    I’m not arguing about relative complexity, I’m positing that “progress” is a cypher for complexity
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      CommentAuthorAngus
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2019 edited
     
    I think you are arguing that progress is increasing complexity. If we talk about "complexer" isn't that relarive to " less complex"?

    To re-iterate my point I think that progress in science consists in simplifying things. Information entropy is negative.
    • CommentAuthorloreman
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2019
     
    If you’re saying that building something like CERN or the Hubble telescope is simplifying “things”, I don’t agree!
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    Yet many of the operating principles of those two wildly disparate science projects are identical and can be described, predicted and controlled by the use of a few "simple" mathematical relations. For certain values of "simple", some of which are truly simple by any definition, of course.
    • CommentAuthorloreman
    • CommentTimeSep 18th 2019
     
    Bit of a metaphor for this Universe, isn't it?
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      CommentAuthorTrim
    • CommentTimeOct 8th 2019
     
    Research shows the 'magic range' of twisted bilayer graphene is larger than previously expected.

    https://phys.org/news/2019-10-magic-range-bilayer-graphene-larger.html
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    In the present work, Codecido et al. experimentally observed an insulting phase
    How one suffers for one's science!
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      CommentAuthorTrim
    • CommentTimeOct 9th 2019
     
    Texas team turns graphene into bacteria-killing filter.

    https://www.theengineer.co.uk/laser-induced-graphene-bacteria/
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      CommentAuthorTrim
    • CommentTimeOct 9th 2019
     
    Graphene-based suitcase could help lighten the load.

    https://www.theengineer.co.uk/graphene-based-suitcase-geic/