Posted By: Grimer

Posted By: genesisLOL...Frank..i've never heard you explaining - what is your gamma atmosphere...btw...

The gamma-atmosphere is that atmosphere which holds nuclei together by the pressure differential between the outside of the nuclei and the inside.

The beta atmosphere is that atmosphere which holds atoms together by the differential pressure between the outside of a material and the inside.

The alpha-atmosphere (the air) is that atmosphere which hold things like sandcastles together by the differential pressure between the outside of the pore water and the inside.

Tensile forces are simply negations of external compressions. Things are held together from without, not from within - and it's turtles all the way down.

thank you.

Aw, c'mon.. I know I can be a stickler, but...

Posted By: genesis

Posted By: Grimer

Posted By: genesisLOL...Frank..i've never heard you explaining - what is your gamma atmosphere...btw...

The gamma-atmosphere is that atmosphere which holds nuclei together by the pressure differential between the outside of the nuclei and the inside.

The beta atmosphere is that atmosphere which holds atoms together by the differential pressure between the outside of a material and the inside.

The alpha-atmosphere (the air) is that atmosphere which hold things like sandcastles together by the differential pressure between the outside of the pore water and the inside.

Tensile forces are simply negations of external compressions. Things are held together from without, not from within - and it's turtles all the way down.

thank you.

Thank you for your polite response. It certainly makes a welcome change.

Think of the pressures as a nested series. A good analogy is osmotic pressure. The air pressure of 14 psi is analogous to the osmotic pressure of a salt dissolved in water. That pressure is only a small fraction of the water pressure which may be many thousands of psi. Now think of a whole series of nested pressures one inside the other. That is what we are seeing in the different concentrations of matter as the scale of scrutiny increases.

Posted By: loremanOnce again the liminality problem Frank. Why don't all the different areas of "pressure" equalize? And I assume that you postulate an infinite number of "atmospheres" and not just 24?

Why doesn't the osmotic pressure of a salt dissolved in water at 1000 atmospheres say and the pressure of the water equalize? Why doesn't the pressure of pollen grains jiggling around in water and the pressure of the water molecules equalize?

As for the number of atmospheres I am only considering the first three at this stage. But since you raise the subject of turtles, yes, just like a fractal patten it will continue on indefinitely. (I don't know where you got the number 24 from. I generally only mention 3 although I have occasionally suggested that gravity was the delta-atmosphere.

Posted By: Grimer

Posted By: loremanOnce again the liminality problem Frank. Why don't all the different areas of "pressure" equalize? And I assume that you postulate an infinite number of "atmospheres" and not just 24?

Why doesn't the osmotic pressure of a salt dissolved in water at 1000 atmospheres say and the pressure of the water equalize? Why doesn't the pressure of pollen grains jiggling around in water and the pressure of the water molecules equalize?

Osmotic pressure doesn't exist until two solutions of differing concentration come together at opposite sides of a membrane. The solute does not have a different pressure from the solvent.

joshs - you are such a rude fecker that it no longer amuses me to answer your fuckwit abusive questions. Go boil your head. Tinker

Eat shit and die. T.

I already have one.

tinker - you're right, and I've said it often before, joshs is a complete twat, a cunt by any other name, an arsehole, etc, etc. it's best to ignore his incessant whining.

He may be an (quite funny) arsehole, but at least he's not delusional.